Lens filters and ISO

Dazzauk · Jan 25, 2017

G-CCAS said:
That would be an expensive experiment, it doesn't state whether they fit the P3S, and, judging by the Q&As they definitely fit the P3P, which doesn't necessarily mean it will fit the Standard. If they're screw on filters then you're out of luck, plus at £50 I'd rather not!

By the way @Dazzauk I linked you to the wrong filters. These are the ones I bought and I just weighed the adaptor ring + filter, 2g, I'm sure the gimbal won't even notice

Ah this new link looks like they are better lenses and lighter also. I shall await any feedback from you sir. ( please don't forget lol )

And if you fancy giving me a lesson on using them i would listen to you like a Jedi student

Dazza

Mr. Salty · Jan 25, 2017

Dazzauk said:
Ah this new link looks like they are better lenses and lighter also. I shall await any feedback from you sir. ( please don't forget lol )

And if you fancy giving me a lesson on using them i would listen to you like a Jedi student

Dazza

You really need to spend some time watching YouTube videos on the subject, like the ones msinger linked to. There are a lot of tutorials on YouTube that do a great job of explaining exposure using drone cameras and ND filters (filters, not lenses -- there's a difference). And you have the advantage of seeing how to change settings in the DJI Go app as well as side-by-side comparisons of the results you can expect to get with various settings and filters.

You should probably do that before asking about which set to buy so you have a better idea of what you want and/or need.

Dazzauk · Jan 25, 2017

Mr. Salty said:
You really need to spend some time watching YouTube videos on the subject, like the ones msinger linked to. There are a lot of tutorials on YouTube that do a great job of explaining exposure using drone cameras and ND filters (filters, not lenses -- there's a difference). And you have the advantage of seeing how to change settings in the DJI Go app as well as side-by-side comparisons of the results you can expect to get with various settings and filters.

You should probably do that before asking about which set to buy so you have a better idea of what you want and/or need.

I will do that. Thank you.

Just to note when I say lenses I mean filters I'm just not using 100% terminology as I assumed everyone would know what i mean. The lens is on the camera and I'm guessing it can't be changed.
The filters are what provide more or less light to the camera sensor to counteract to high a shutter speed in less than perfect light.

Darren

G-CCAS · Jan 25, 2017

Dazzauk said:
I will do that. Thank you.

Just to note when I say lenses I mean filters I'm just not using 100% terminology as I assumed everyone would know what i mean. The lens is on the camera and I'm guessing it can't be changed.
The filters are what provide more or less light to the camera sensor to counteract to high a shutter speed in less than perfect light.

Darren

Spot on. And yes, you're right, you can't change the lens on the phantoms.

Dazzauk · Jan 25, 2017

How Will these help if I wanted to film over water?

What will I gain / experience from fitting the polarising one? If I am correct lol

G-CCAS · Jan 25, 2017

Dazzauk said:
How Will these help if I wanted to film over water?

What will I gain / experience from fitting the polarising one? If I am correct lol

If you use the Circular Polarising Filter that comes with the kit I bought, you will reduce the light by 1.6 stops as well as cutting out reflections. The main problem I can see with this is you will have to make sure you get the CPL in the right position before you go too far away. When I use them on my SLR, you need to turn them until you can see that they are cutting out the right frequency of light (they're adjustable you see). So in this instance, I would hold the drone and point the camera at the reflective surface (ie the water) and adjust the filter (you turn the ring on the front) til the glaring reflections are reduced.

That is how it helps.

sgf · Jan 25, 2017

Back in the 70's I had a 35mm slr camera. Common wisdom back then, at least for us amateurs, was to put a UV filter over the lens to protect it. It sounds like op is wanting to improve photography but does anyone add UV filters or the like simply to protect the camera lens and if so what is used? Good info. in this thread.

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G-CCAS · Jan 25, 2017

We still do that with the UV filters on SLRs. I would have done that with my P3S but then having a filter adapter just for that seemed a bit excessive. Now that I have the ND filter thread on it and can't put a lens cap on, I might reconsider

NewMexicoFlyer · Jan 25, 2017

In the high desert of New Mexico I keep a circular polorizer on my dlsr at all times. Sunglasses for my camera [emoji41]

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Dazzauk · Jan 26, 2017

G-CCAS said:
Now that I have the ND filter thread on it and can't put a lens cap on, I might reconsider

Hey bud, what is the MD filter thread?

Cheers

G-CCAS · Jan 26, 2017

I mean the mount that goes on the camera lens so you can screw the filters onto it. On second thoughts, I don't want to stack too many filters on it because of the weight and also I don't want to get vignetting in the picture.

Dazzauk · Jan 26, 2017

G-CCAS said:
I mean the mount that goes on the camera lens so you can screw the filters onto it. On second thoughts, I don't want to stack too many filters on it because of the weight and also I don't want to get vignetting in the picture.

Can you use more than one filter lens at a time then?

Do you now thing the weight will be an issue?

And what's vignetteing lol? Sorry more questions

G-CCAS · Jan 26, 2017

I did read about the weight thing, but it seems that a quick gimbal calibration should sort that. Vignetting is when the edges of the picture are underexposed which makes it look a little bit like looking through a peep hole

piloteer · Jan 26, 2017

I have a P3S. These Neewer filters from Amazon do a good job of keeping exposure in check. I was out on a cloudy, but a VERY white day with ISO 100 and 1/50 at 24 fps to get "that cinematic look" and the filters, especially the ND8 helped a lot.

They are definitely not too heavy for the gimbal and initial adjustment after you turn on the drone works well. If one's paranoid, one may always recalibrate in the Go app.

Remember, ANYTHING you put in front of a camera sensor (and the camera already has several lenses in front of the sensor) WILL DECREASE the image quality, although more expensive filters will decrease less.

P.S. Here's the video I mentioned with ND8 and ISO 100; 1/50

G-CCAS · Jan 26, 2017

@piloteer That's a cool vid, I like the music! I'm going to be doing a lot of snow stuff next week, can't wait!!

Dazzauk · Jan 26, 2017

piloteer said:
I have a P3S. These Neewer filters from Amazon do a good job of keeping exposure in check. I was out on a cloudy, but a VERY white day with ISO 100 and 1/50 at 24 fps to get "that cinematic look" and the filters, especially the ND8 helped a lot.

They are definitely not too heavy for the gimbal and initial adjustment after you turn on the drone works well. If one's paranoid, one may always recalibrate in the Go app.

Remember, ANYTHING you put in front of a camera sensor (and the camera already has several lenses in front of the sensor) WILL DECREASE the image quality, although more expensive filters will decrease less.

P.S. Here's the video I mentioned with ND8 and ISO 100; 1/50

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Awesome video. And thanks for sharing the fact you have tried these filters out in terms or weight. Helps me and others out

Philltayl · Jan 26, 2017

Dazzauk said:
Ah ok thanks for another new piece of info, only problem is all of your links whilst great are for the U.S, I seem to struggle here in the U.K..

I have a set from Amazon in the UK for my P3S Neewer they were around £15 for a set of 4

Dazzauk · Jan 26, 2017

Philltayl said:
I have a set from Amazon in the UK for my P3S Neewer they were around £15 for a set of 4

Are you conclusions also that the weight is ok for the gimble on the standard?

Philltayl · Jan 26, 2017

Dazzauk said:
Are you conclusions also that the weight is ok for the gimble on the standard?

Not weighed them but they work just fine with the P3S gimbal

David_Cambridge · Jan 27, 2017

I would start with a polarizing filter first, and under expose a little bit to make the colors more vivid. I shoot, in sunlight outside, with a CP filter, the cinema d style, and under expose about 1 stop. I adjust slightly in post for the desired look.

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